The Lady Liberty Radio Series on 21st Century Radio®

21st Century Radio® with Drs. Bob and Zohara Hieronimus has been on the air since 1988, featuring interviews with a wide variety of guests on unusual topics and social justice themes.

The Lady Liberty Radio Series on 21st Century Radio described on this page is a collection of about two dozen interviews with the experts we researched for the book project, The Secret Life of Lady Liberty (available on, featuring guests on goddess history, Native American culture, art history, the suffragists and women’s rights. We present these interviews here in downloadable podcast form, available in their entirety.

Subscribe to the podcast or download the mp3s individually below.

Dr. Riane Eisler, Ph.D.

Broadcast Date: 03/20/11

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The Chalice and the Blade: Our History, Our Future, HarperOne, 1988

The Real Wealth of Nations: Creating a Caring Economics, Berrett-Koehler, 2008

Katya Miller

Broadcast Date: 08/07/11

“An Appreciation of Thomas Crawford’s Statue of Freedom: A Statue Called America, Pocahontas Liberty, and Freedom” published in The Capitol Dome, Fall 2007.

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Selena Fox

Broadcast Date: 10/09/11

“Goddess of Freedom: from Libertas to Lady Liberty”, the Lady Liberty League, and the Circle Sanctuary – protecting nature-based religions from persecution

Nancy Jo Fox

Broadcast Date: 07/17/11

Liberties with Liberty: The Fascinating History of America’s Proudest Symbol, Museum of American Folk Art, 1986

Max Dashú

Broadcast Date: 09/04/11

Goddess Scholar and Historian, Restoring Women to Cultural Memory through the Suppressed Histories Archives

Dr. Vivien Green Fryd, Ph.D.

Broadcast Date: 12/18/11

Art & Empire: Politics Of Ethnicity In U.S. Capitol 1815-1860 (Perspective On Art & Architect), Ohio University Press, 2001

Ean Begg

Broadcast Date: 06/17/12

The Cult of the Black Virgin, Penguin Books, 1985; rev. ed., 1996

Barry Moreno

Broadcast Date: 01/22/12

Librarian and Historian at the Statue of Liberty Ellis Island Immigration Museum and author of:

The Statue of Liberty (Images of America), Arcadia Publishing, 2004.

The Statue of Liberty Encyclopedia, New Line Books, 2005.

Ellis Island’s Famous Immigrants (Images of America: New Jersey), Arcadia Publishing, 2008.

Dr. Jordan Paper, Ph.D.

Broadcast Date: 02/13/11

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The Deities Are Many: A Polytheistic Theology (S U N Y Series in Religious Studies), State University of New York Press, 2005 Native North American Religious Traditions: Dancing for Life, Praeger, 2006 Through the Earth Darkly: Female Spirituality in Comparative Perspective (with co-authors: Elizabeth Aijin-Tettey, Louise Backman, Jacqui Lavalley, Marilyn Nefsky, Li Chuang Paper, Johanna Stuckey), Continuum Intl Pub Group, 1997

Edith Mayo

Broadcast Date: 08/19/12

Curator Emeritas in Political History at the Smithsonian Museum of American History on “Motherhood, Social Service, and Political Reform: Political Culture and Imagery of American Woman Suffrage”

Watch this film for a good primer on the heroic and real women who succeeded in passing the 19th Amendment to the Constitution:“Iron Jawed Angels” starring Hilary Swank.

David Ovason

Broadcast Date: 09/16/12

Hermetic Traditions regarding the Divine Feminine and Goddesses in America.

Dr. Joy Porter, Ph.D.

Broadcast Date: 11/18/12

Land and Spirit in Native America, Praeger, 2012

Dr. C. Sue Carter, Ph.D.

Broadcast Date: 04/22/12

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The Integrative Neurobiology of Affiliation, Bradford Books, 1999 (Editor) Attachment and Bonding: A New Synthesis (Dahlem Workshop Reports) (Editor), The MIT Press, 2005

Pioneering work in the role of hormones oxytocin and vasopressin in social bonding, parental behavior, stress and reproduction, as well as the consequences of medical manipulations for human development and parent-child interactions, including induced labor and breast feeding. Also, the role of oxytocin and vasopressin in mental disorders such as autism, schizophrenia, anxiety and depression.

Dr. Mark Koltko-Rivera, Ph.D.

Broadcast Date: 02/05/12

The psychology behind the fear of the goddess, the scapegoating of the Freemasons, and the errors in the various conspiracy accusations about both. Author of Freemasonry: An Introduction, Tarcher, 2011, and the forthcoming book, Mormons: Who They Are, How They Think, What They Believe, and Why They Succeed.

Dr. Sally Roesch Wagner, Ph.D.

Broadcast Date: 07/03/11

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Sisters in Spirit: Iroquois Influence on Early Feminists, Book Publishing Company, 2001 A Time of Protest: Suffragists Challenge the Republic, Sky Carrier Press, 1998 Woman Church and State (Classics in Women’s Studies) by Matilda Joslyn Gage, (foreward by Sally Roesch Wagner), Humanity Books, 2001

Douglas George-Kanentiio and Joanne Shenandoah

Broadcast Date: 06/12/11

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Skywoman: Legends of the Iroquois, Clear Light Publications, 2010 Iroquois Culture & Commentary, Clear Light Publications, 2000 Iroquois on Fire: A Voice from the Mohawk Nation, University of Nebraska Press, 2008

PLUS the Grammy-award winning music of Joanne Shenandoah, who has performed and recorded with Neil Young, Willie Nelson, Judy Collins, Jackson Browne, Kris Kristofferson, Ray Charles, Bill Miller, Joan Baez, Emmy Lou Harris, and scores more!

Chief Aina Olomo

Broadcast Date: 04/10/11

The Core of Fire: A Path to Yoruba Spiritual Activism, Athelia Henrietta PR, 2003